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| Challenge the Philosophy - Entries 268-270 |
Definitions of the principal terms used in the competition:
"We cannot know": our ability to refute or prove a proposition, within the limits of what we know,
by more reasonably contradicting our use of reason than not doing so. For further explanation, and explanation of "know", see "we cannot know" and "know".
"The proposition asserts the impossibility of identity
between knowledge and being, in a contemporaneous context.
However, if this is not to be an exploration of a logical
tautology, then the grounds for disproof must centre on the
meanings of terms in the statement, and suggest that the
reasonableness of these meanings is unreasonable. The
general features of parameters of reasonableness preclude
the subject from the known which become understood in terms
of the absence of the subject. The subject is later
included to find that the immediacy of knowing has been
placed in a position of mediacy that is permanently one
step removed from him/her/it, and exists in the form
of representation. In such forms of representation, the
notion of Being is excluded since this implies a certain
Totality of awareness, and the representation is always
partial. Consequently, not only is there no possibility of
disproof, but there can be no discussion and, in fact, no
problem. There are variations of this form of position, but
they generally come to similar conclusions.
The form of reasonableness needs some alteration if there
is to be headway. The type of knowing implicit in the
proposition is essentially scientific. It is no surprise to
find quantum theory presenting itself as a possible route,
but that is a blind alley since the disproof must contain
an element of suspension as a relation, and the quantum
realm is one that defines its realism in terms of collapse
of suspension.
The form of reasonableness must contain the subject from
the outset, and not introduce him/her/it after the event.
This points at reflective intention, a feedback loop of
perspectives in which subject and object are in a state of
dialectical tension from which there is no respite. This
points towards an existential expansion of reasonableness,
and leads to a 'felt' evaluation. Consequently, the
proposition becomes transposed to this arena inclusive of
subject, and reformulated: it is impossible to be both
complete and incomplete at the same time.
The notion of incompletion is common to both parameters, in
that knowledge bears the Popperian hallmarks etc. and is
always liable to improvement/ expansion etc. In
terms of existential evaluation, it is necessary to
circumvent this categorized form of knowledge in order to
include the excluded self-that-knows. In this evaluation,
the state of completion refers to the movement from the
aspectual to the Total, which has been referred to as the
in-itself. The in-itself infers its significance from a
plenum or Totality. It is also paradoxically a state of
emptiness and it is this dual character of Totality that is
part of the significance of Being. The knower, on the other
hand, is not a Totality but is an aspect of it, represented
by the partiality which is given as read. This knower is
referred to as the for-itself, and so the proposition then
becomes an exploration of the relationship between the for-
itself and the in-itself. Being who you are is expressed in
the statement 'I am not yet myself'. By this awareness, the
Totality calls the knower into existence and draws the
knower towards itself. In effect, the for-itself is
striving towards the in-itself. Again, the proposition
transmutes: 'I am for-myself, therefore I am not in-
myself'. Again, the terms demand this distinction,
retaining in the notion of striving the essential 'I am'.
The incomplete, striving for completion, is destined to
fail (the hallmark of the scientific category of
reasonableness and non-finality). Yet by this sense of
striving, the sense of completion generates the reality of
a sense of lack. That is, the Totality is experienced in
the for-itself as a sense of lack, or absence. It is that
feeling, a desire, (which is an inner state the usual
rationale would represent in terms of external force
and thereby preclude desire) which provides the motive of
action: the search for Being (in-itself) in the presence of
its impossibility. In Whitehead's philosophy, the
sense of completion is called satisfaction, but he is
astute enough not to make this idea collapse into the
merely emotional by equation. In Sartre, however, there is a
meeting-point when in-itself and for-itself finally meet,
which is the point of death. It
is this point that presents the proposition with a solution
which is not a real solution
but a dilemma. The point of death melts the for-itself and
the in-itself into each other
and appears to disprove the proposition, for then they are
coincident.
This is not the solution one would like it to be, which is
hardly surprising since such a
fusion dissolves the terms so that the contemporaneous
becomes meaningless. In that
case, even though the proposition is transposed, it would
appear that the disproof is
just as elusive on the existential plain, as it is on the
epistemological and
metaphysical. However, all is not lost. There is a sense in
which the proposition is
disproved at a more dynamic level. Given the call to
completion by Being, and given
that completion is synonymous with dissolution as final
resolution, then it gives rise
to momentary satisfactions as symbolic referents that
fractalise the completion in
aspectual form. In effect, the movement to completion is
not a long chain of
experiences moving uniformly towards resolution, but a
series of jumps that are
united one to the other in a rhythm that capture this
constant unification. Indeed, if
this did not occur, then experience would be that of a
fungus, or various forms of
bacteria that proliferate without reproduction. For
everything else, the sense of
end-state is contained in aspect in every moment. This
sentence, for instance, has an
intention to end at the mark. This sentence announces its
own newness with a capital
letter. This capital letter and its adjacent full stop
represent as a singularity the fusion
sought for. Cyclic patterns and natural rhythms contain
this beginning/end mark as
matter of course. A rhythm is a pattern which, on the mark,
announces both a closure
(completeness) as well as an expectation (incompleteness).
This is called Becoming,
which is a rhythm with a dipole action of Being and partial
being. To be more
accurate, it is more the case that this is contained in the
gaps between rhythms, like
the space between electron orbits which cannot be visited,
yet which define the orbits.
It is in this sense of future conjunction, in which it is
represented in terms of structure
in the present moment, however fleeting (and usually
unconsciously), that the
disproof is symbolically present.
Interestingly, the transposition to the existential does
not work in the reverse
direction. Because of this, it is always liable that the
disproof can be easily discredited
and denied. However, in the denial is contained an inherent
objection to any kind of
proposition that does not conform to its terms of
reasonableness, and that includes the
perception of death as a passive event with no
representation (and therefore no
influence on the present). But in the traditional format of
the existential position, this
rejection is a fleeing from death, which in existential
terms is a fear that is its own
realization. There is no Being that does not contain its
own negation, and there is no
knowing except in terms of lack. Neither of these are
represented in the terms of
reasonableness, and so the intuition must extend beyond
these parameters to find
coherence elsewhere.
Naturally, this is a threadbare position, which merely
hints at the direction of
resolution. The implications of solution, however, must be
left as a resonance in the
mind of the reader to tease out."
Sam Nico August 19 2001
The main premise for your challenge is Sartre’s claim that the in-itself and for-itself meet in a state of unification at the point of death. From here, you argue that the unification of the in-itself and for-itself are reflected in every living moment, or in your words, ".... momentary satisfactions as symbolic referents that fractalise the completion in aspectual form.... a rhythm [made up of a series of jumps] that captures this constant unification.... [an] end-state contained in aspect in every moment.... in the sense of future conjunction [in which] the disproof is symbolically present." However, you acknowledge that death may be viewed as a "passive event with no representation (and therefore no influence on the present)", and therefore death as a passive event cannot be used as a basis to explain the present. More significant from our standpoint and in terms of the proposition is that though the in-itself and for-itself appear to meet in a state of unification at the point of death (i.e. a unification of non-living), the union does not occur at the conscious level; so it does not follow how the union at the point of death or non-conscious can be equated to the conscious (for-itself) and unconscious (in-itself). In other words, the condition (non-living) for unification at death does not correlate to the condition (living) for the existence of life, and therefore a comparison to living in terms of unification based on non-living cannot be made without inconsistency.
Also, it is questionable that death is a state of completion or closure, because an individual’s influence on other life-forms apparently occurs after his/her death, and at the biological level, his/her remains apparently contribute to the existence of other life-forms, so that no pure state of completion is ever reached.
Moreover, we understand why you argue that the statements, "no being that does not contain its own negation", and "there is no knowing except in terms of lack" are not represented in terms of reasonableness, thereby "intuition must extend beyond the parameters to find coherence elsewhere", because without coherence elsewhere you cannot explain or justify the notion of "end-state being contained in aspect in every moment". Yet your argument of incomplete reasonableness applies to any position, since we apparently cannot completely know that we know something. Though intuition cannot extend beyond reasonableness and maintain its coherence, because coherence is defined by reason viz., the comparison of thought. So we are left in the realm of reasonableness, and thereby its apparent incompleteness, with the notion of more reasonableness to find limited coherence.
In short, we do not think your position that the point of death defines the state of living is more reasonably correct, because the non-conscious is not equatable to the conscious and unconscious, and therefore there does not appear to be a fractalization of the completion at death in aspectual form. More significant, the point of death does not appear to be a point of complete closure, and therefore it cannot adequately be used as a basis to explain the proposed union of conscious and unconscious based on completion in the state of living. Though we agree with you that your position hints at a direction for the possible resolution of the proposition, especially your thoughts on rhythm as a pattern which announces both closure (completeness) and expectation (incompleteness), with dipole action of Being and partial being.
"I have taken some time to read through a great deal of the other
responses people have put forth. We are asked to ‘in concise words’ say ‘how the
proposition that we cannot truly know who we are and be
who we are at the same time, can be overcome’. Where
‘overcome’ is defined as ‘our ability as individuals to more
reasonably refute the proposition’.
Here is (in concise words) a more reasonable statement of why
‘we’ may state that the proposition is false.
1) Let us begin, for argument's sake, saying that I both know
who I am and exist as who I am at the same time.
2) Let us say that this simultaneous knowledge and existence is
identical to the value ‘1’ (i.e. one).
3) Let us also say, again for the sake of argument, that you
know who you are and exist as who you are at the same time.
4) Let us say that your simultaneous knowledge and existence
is identical to the value ‘1.1’ (i.e. one and one-tenths).
5) Finally, let us also say that both ‘you’ and ‘I’ comprise
‘we’; furthermore, the value by which ‘we’ discern ‘you’
from ‘I’ is 0.1 (i.e. one-tenths).
With these assumptions, hear are the reasons why the
proposition that ‘we cannot truly know who we are and be
who we are at the same time’ can be overcome.
6) The value of ‘we’ (0.1) cannot be disputed, because ‘5)’
above implicitly set up a global frame of reference (where the
phrase ‘frame of reference’ is used as in Newtonian physics).
7) ‘I’ may have a different resolution at which I view ‘we’
(0.1), however. Namely, ‘I’ may know 0.1 to be 0.2.
8) Furthermore, ‘you’ may have a different resolution at
which you view ‘we’ (0.1). Namely, ‘you’ may know 0.1 to
be 0.02.
9) ‘We’ in ‘5)’ is a global frame of reference as just mentioned.
‘I’ and ‘you’ separately represent local frames of reference.
Both local frames of reference offer truthful information but
must be translated to a global frame (a frame that
reparameterizes - or rescales - local frame of reference values to
the global frame).
10) So our global frame shows us that 0.1 equals the local
respective frame values of 0.2 and 0.02. A global frame of
reference is required to show that the two differing local values
are indeed equal. The global frame of reference shows us that
0.2 = 0.02, where the left hand side is part of a different value
system than that of the right hand side. Regardless, the global
frame of 0.1 remains.
So here I have explicitly shown how ‘you’ and ‘I’ may have
different (i.e. reparameterized) knowledge (truthful views) of
who we are, but the global frame is in no way discounted or
any less truthful. My own prior submissions reveal the nature
of the global frame of reference. Reference my prior
submissions for further details on the nature of the global
frame of reference. (Entries 248, 253, 257)
In reading the many other submissions, I've concluded that
we're being bogged down by translation, reparameterization,
rescaling, or what ever other word you can think of that
captures the same notion. I haven't seen any statement (pro or
con) which disproves the global fact of 0.1 constituting that
‘we’ both know who ‘we’ are and exist as who ‘we’ are at the
same time.
The assumptions made above ‘for argument's sake’ are not
invalid and need not be assumptions, because if I can truthfully
state that I do not know who I am, then I must truthfully have
knowledge of the fact that I am one who does not know who I
am. In which case I do, indeed, know at least ‘1’ thing about
who I am and exist as ‘1’ who doesn't know who ‘I’ am."
Donald Changeau August 27 2001
We agree that within your system of thought regarding global and local frame of references, the proposition is overcome. However, it is unclear to us why and how your global frame of reference of "0.1", constituting that we both truly know who we are and exist as who we are at the same time, is a "global fact" outside your system of thought. What grounds do you have to assert from your local frame of reference the universal objectiveness of the "0.1" global frame of reference? How do you distinguish local and global frame of references, when you apparently can only know from your local frame of reference?
Also, your argument that ‘true knowledge of not knowing who we are implies that we truly know who we are in order to know that we do not’, is not relevant, because we are stating from our limited perspective, rather than true perspective, that we cannot truly know who we are and be who we are. (To state from our limited perspective that we cannot truly know who we are, does not require that we truly know who we are. All that is required for consistency is that we have a limited perspective on not truly knowing who we are, including a limited conception of who we are.)
Reply to the response to Entry 268
"There is a two-fold objection to the solution proffered. The first centers
on the 'truly known' as opposed to the known, suggesting that the former is
vested with a certainty that aims at absolutism and finality. In attempting
a disproof in terms of expanding the horizons of the known and the knowable,
the search is not for such a sense of true knowing but an expansion of
horizons that is containable in a coherent and self-consistent manner that
can be regarded as reasonable. In any such attempt, there must be a link at
some point to the epistemological form of knowing as a way of grounding a
general principle that is put in metaphysical form. This is not the same
as searching for proof, but is nonetheless a search for some kind of
translation that makes sense in some (yet to be specified) form. It also
indicates something of the nature of approach that aims at Totality but
which must also fail. In terms of solution
therefore, it is suggested that an indication of a vertical direction is the
object, without ascending to some 'top' at which point one can throw away
the means of ascension. In effect, such a solution is no final word, and is
a dialectical position confronting Wittgenstein's definition of the
inexpressible in clause 7 of his Tractatus (from which
he, incidentally, throws away his ladder of ascent as though he had
discovered some final truth). The point is that while final solution is
impossible, the attempt at it is necessary. This process is not so much a
philosophical position as an awareness in philosophical terms that this is
how reality operates anyway, the not-going-gentle-into
etc., the negentropic arising from the entropic, the struggle against death
in its presence, or the completion in partiality. This, however, is a
footnote to one aspect of the spirit of the replies made, and is not so much
a response aiming at solution, but a setting of context within which the
terms of solution must be sought.
The greater part of the objection is concerned with the notion of death as
incompletion and as a non-conscious state which is a valid point. I should
point out firstly that although I have stated that it may be regarded as a
passive event, what this means is that the largely metaphysical approach to
the solution is always laid open to criticism that may take this position,
but it is not the position that I take. The Sartrean perspective which
generated this form of solution is encapsulated in his image of Nothingness
coiled around Being like a worm. As far as the present state of knowledge
and reasonableness are concerned, I regard this as an advance since these two
have been artificially separated and do not need to refer to each other in
terms of definition, which is the rational perspective of reasonableness. In
this sense, (which is the existential position) the partial form of knowing
which is the current rational/scientific expression, represents a form of
being/becoming which is one half of the existential perspective, while
completely ignores the perspective generated by
the other pole. In this sense, 'ignoring' becomes a fleeing from, and it is
in the terms of expression inherited from this position that what Sartre saw
as completion is in fact only a stage in a process and not a completion in
itself, or the state of union between the in-itself and for-itself as an
ultimate satisfaction.
However, that is not to negate the response; it makes a valid point which
must be addressed which is that death may not represent completion, an
argument which centers on the use of 'apparently' in the statement
"influence... apparently occurs after.. death". The omissions are deliberate
in that a solution must question what is meant by life-forms and 'his/her'
as though the problem relates only to what are
traditionally thought of as living entities. It is not yet possible to
question such assumptions because the terms of reasonableness have created
such distinctions and must be questioned at some later time when
reasonableness is expanded. But the point is taken, and I feel that it
reflects the union of being and nothingness in the wrong order. It is Being
that is twirled about nothingness like a vine and not the
reverse, and I think even stating such a reconfiguration must send a message
to the intuition to create a new realization of signification. This can be
done in two ways:
Firstly, invoking the principle of contradiction - what kind of life would
arise in the absence of death? Answer: to begin with, there would be no need
of reproduction or sexuality in general since these are necessitated by the
presence of death. It is in the presence of death, therefore, that sexuality
begins to become coherent. In the sense of
becoming nothing, there is a drive bent on leaving behind a palpable
something. Consequently, how is one to think of death as something that is
more than a passive, non-conscious state?
Secondly, consider the metaphor: two gas-filled balloons are placed in a
sealed chamber. They are equal in size. One of the balloons is removed and
as a result, the one remaining expands. It is the image of change in what
remains behind that is the focus, and must refer to more than mere physical
remains as fodder for future generations, although even this has its
symbolic content, if the term 'apparently' is to
have a more precise significance.
The way forward is to consider 'knowing' as something that is not a purely
mental activity but which is an emergence entirely dependent on a dynamic
structure of being, known as body. Body in turn reflects the presence of
death as a striving through a sense of lack, which places consciousness in a
position derived from impulse of becoming known as desire. In this sense,
knowledge, before it is captured in books as an objective organon, grows out
of 'knowing', which is an awareness at
both a conscious and unconscious level, which is not a purely mental
activity but a whole person activity. In such a context, death cannot be a
passive event in the history of a life cycle, but an active participant
(non-conscious) in the structure of that life-cycle. How does such a view
impact on evolution, as one form of example?
Imagine the scenario: a herd of deer swim across treacherous, fast flowing
waters filled with ice flows. Some make it to the other side, many do not.
But those that survived have done so as a matter of luck and good fortune
rather than being more able. How is one to read this? Traditionally, one
could argue the case for their better skills etc. making them the most
likely to survive. But this is not the case, for it is just as likely that
they become the fittest after the event. In effect, because they are now so
few, they gain the necessary strength to proceed by inheriting through the
death of others their own strength. Now this cannot be a conscious process,
and so death itself
must participate in this passing on of information. Indeed, some interesting
research by a few scientists such as Rupert Sheldrake is beginning to hint
at this. What it also hints at is a more organic form in the structure and
nature of memory which, like the material corpse, must remain as a presence
in that which is left behind. It does not
putrefy and decay, but is passed on in the species that remains. The search
for some mechanism that demonstrates this is not essential to understanding
the principle, although I suppose that one must nod in the direction of
Sheldrake's morphogenetic fields if it does become necessary (although these
are restricted by the concept of field and do not recognize the function of
death in this process). But more significantly, it points at memory as a
function of Being-in-Totality in which the world is not all that can be the
case, but which by focusing, emerges into the foreground as the
part-of-whole representing it. In effect, Being must imply something of the
form of nested structure in which knowing (as bodily awareness)resides at a
particular level representing the whole. However, at the current time, it
is virtually impossible to make such a position totally coherent because of
the familiarity in thought and practice of what has become coherent in
terms of what passes for reasonableness. It points at the irrealism that is
part of the structure of purely rational thought. It filters into the
familiar round in terms that suggest a perverse logic of existence: if you
cannot prove that an event occurred, then it never
happened. This is the defense of the criminal. This emphasis on
epistemological structure that acts as warrant for existence actually strips
away this level of knowing and being and replaces it with a representation
that appears to be the same thing, but which is actually founded on
principles of inertia from which nothing self-activating
can emerge, and which are 'explained' in terms of external forces. In terms
of evolution, the position is the diametric opposite to that given here, and
it is those most able to adapt that survive (since there is evidence and one
can 'see' this as the familiar). But it is impossible to make of the notion
of adaptability after death an
epistemology since there can be no evidence; it is purely a matter of a way
of seeing and perspective.
The position being proffered here is a dialectical one, in which knowing is
derived from an internal impulse and is, firstly, conscious (unconsciously)
of the complete/incomplete from the fact of death, but which reaches
completion in the passing on of memory into the unconscious of
Being-in-totality which remains after death. In such terms, one transcends
the image of decay as residue at death by making
it symbolic of the life that requires this process in terms of memory. In
this sense of reversing the poles of being and nothingness as employed by
Sartre, one arrives at a position in which the terms of solution to the
problem must involve a temporal component. It is beyond the bounds of this
reply to discuss it here, but it is sufficient
to point out something of the richness of the texture of a solution that is
being sought, and which is indicated by these terms generated by the
coincident moments of being and knowing.
There are those who feel that philosophical speculation has had its day and
that real problems are the subject of reasonableness as defined by the
purely rational. What has been suggested here so far is not a total
solution, but an indication of direction. The whole solution must recognize
that in the question is hidden a problem of greater
complexity than that presented by Fermat's last theorem. However, as an
indicator of significance, one is pushed into questioning the wisdom of the
purely rational in real, practical terms when one observes the immense
investment in armaments and in the promulgation of warfare, against the
conclusions being proffered here which indicate that no problem is actually
solved by the removal of members of a species, and that in fact the problem
remains and becomes intensified by its practice, by structuring the memory
of those who survive. This must be a historicist process and not totally
dependent on traditional learning. There is, however, an even sharper
indicator of significance in terms of the quantum gravity problem. But
perhaps the simplest
example concerns the current interest in consciousness and the notion of
contingent possibility of replication. In its simplest form, the question is
'how is it possible to move from an 'as if' state to an 'is' state?' The
answer is that it is not. So the way forward, for the purely rational at
least, is simply to ride rough-shod over it.
Consequently, the debate is freed of any philosophical consequence or
deliberation. Ultimately, however, it will build a replicant, and still be
faced with the same questions that concerned Plato and will be no further
forward than Descartes, and yet the machine will stand as a symbol of
progress. It is effectively a Golden Calf, testifying to the arrogance of a
category construction that attempts to contain all
Knowing and Being by dissolving the latter into the former and making of the
apparent amalgam a solution to the question being answered here, with no
need of reference to death, desire, striving, declining etc. Computers can
be made to behave as if they have consciousness, therefore they have
consciousness. This is the argument for the case, and bookshops are full of
information that demonstrate this to be the
case as if weight of consensus is evidence. It obscures the real problem by
making it appear that there is no problem. The real solution is not so much
a solution as a constant criticism of the position
proposed here which is then spurred to presenting itself in other ways to
incorporate the criticisms. I venture to hope that in replying to the
response, this will not be seen as an end to the story."
Sam Nico August 29 2001
You raise three main issues--reasonableness as limitation, death as non-passive event, and constant criticism of proposition--which we will address:
You argue that reasonableness as defined by what is acceptable, coherent, adequate, and formal is biased to a set range of perspective, while being self-contradictory from justifying things like the promulgation of warfare, and believing things like the reapplication of consciousness in non-living forms. Hence, according to you, your perspective on the relation between life and death is unacceptable and incoherent in relation to the formal, middle-excluded logic perspective, thereby cannot pass for reasonableness. Or in your words, ".... it is not yet possible to
question such assumptions because the terms of reasonableness have created
such distinctions and must be questioned at some later time when
reasonableness is expanded.... it
is virtually impossible to make such a position totally coherent because of
the familiarity in thought and practice of what has become coherent in
terms of what passes for reasonableness." We cannot do anything about the bias in human thought towards excluded-middle logic than to run the competition as we have been doing--the entries are evaluated based solely on their reasons according to reason, rather than from a particular formal system of thought. Though we feel that you are alluding to a more profound problem: the limitation of reason itself, due to self-reference and infinite regress, to ground absolute truth-value of knowledge. We cannot do anything about that limitation (i.e. it is a necessity that conscious knowing entail reasoning), and to discard reason because of its limitation, would leave us with no basis to evaluate, which would inevitably lead to self-contradiction. (i.e. any conscious knowing would be a form of reason, and even the rejection of reason based on its limitation would be as well.) So in our view, we have no choice than to exist true to reason, despite its epistemological limitation. (Though it is possible that when reason is turned on itself in terms of our existence, it is contradictory as you partly alluded to about the self-contradictory nature of some formal perspectives. Even still to discard reason would not make sense, because of its limitation. In other words, the limitation of reason is its Achilles heel and yet savior, because from a rational standpoint and due to the limitation on what we can truly know, we must allow room for error in our decision making. Therefore, the notion of discarding reason is out of the question.)
In defense of the notion of death as non-passive event, you argue that death has an influence on human reproduction and human life itself through an avoidance of non-life. More important and with reference to Rupert Sheldrake, you argue that the organic form of memory in terms of structure and nature, passes on at an individual’s death, so that what remains is a "part-of-whole" representing "Being-in-Totality", or a particular level of knowing representing the whole, which means that the current perspective of an individual represents the dynamic "Being-in-Totality" of the individual at that moment. Hence, there is a continuum of knowledge that is in constant flux, but which at any particular moment we are conscious of one aspect of the continuum, while at the same time, the totality of it. If you are correct, then this position would be grounds for a solution to the proposition. However, you are assuming that what you know through memory represents the whole, and yet you do not provide grounds for making this assumption, other than the claim that memory is passed on at death. We do not question that some memory is likely passed on at death, so that there may be a collective or whole of knowledge. What we question is that the whole of knowledge represents "Being-in-Totality". We contend that all conscious knowledge, including memory we are conscious of, whether derived from sensorial, biochemical, or neuronal interactions, is representational, thereby in terms of knowledge we know, cannot be "Being-in-totality". Also, we contend that we are the creators of conscious knowledge at sensorial, biochemical, and neuronal levels, thus it does not follow how we can create who we are through who we are. So in terms of memory being passed on, and it representing a collective of human knowledge, it does not make sense how memory itself can be viewed as "Being-in-Totality". Even by viewing knowledge as a complete whole in the living state, it is unclear how that whole equates with "Being-in-Totality".
We agree with you that the solution to the proposition will entail a "constant criticism" rather than an absolute answer, because of our apparent inability to truly know that we know something. Though at some point, the criticism from a particular position will either exhaust itself, or overcome the proposition by creating a situation in which the proposition cannot incorporate the criticism without contradicting itself. Even then and outside the bounds of the competition, there would be no final solution or absolute endpoint, due to the apparent non-absolute truth-value of human perspective. Pertaining to your position on memory, we feel that your criticism has been refuted, until you more reasonably show how memory (and all conscious knowledge) can be equated to "Being-in-Totality". (i.e. what is it about knowledge, other than memory being passed on, that allows you to equate knowledge to "Being-in-Totality"?)
"Who we are": the fundamental level of our being from our limited perspective.
For further explanation see who we are.
"Be": the state of living or existing with who we are as the basis.
"Existence": things and life-forms occupying space.
"Truly know": more reasonably showing how something can be known in entirety.
"We": the individuals who make up humankind.
"Overcome": our ability as individuals to more reasonably refute the proposition, "we cannot know who we are and be who we are at the same time", than reasonably supporting it. "More reasonably refute" entails using reason in the most objective manner possible, and includes the arguments stated in the entries and
disputes submitted to the "Challenge the Philosophy" competition, and the arguments stated in the responses to them. Also, one idea is deemed more reasonable than another idea if it is more consistent and sound.
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Entries 259-267, Entries 271-273
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